"She looked like a Starter" - 5 Talking Points: England coach John Mitchell and captain Marlie Packer react to win against France - Page 2 of 2 - Ruck

“She looked like a Starter” – 5 Talking Points: England coach John Mitchell and captain Marlie Packer react to win against France

3. ‘Marlie’s Milestone’ – Packer climbs the Red Roses try scoring ranks

Try Celebrations for Marlie Packer, Captain of England Women during the TikTok Womens Six Nations Match between England Women and France Women at Twickenham, London on 29 April 2023 (Photo: Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

England captain Marlie Packer crossed over for two tries against France, with the back row racking up a significant milestone upon the Red Roses all-time try scoring charts. Packer scored her 45th and 46th career Test match tries in the win against Les Bleus, albeit amidst the TV broadcaster’s confusion which awarded Packer’s second try to lock Morwenna Talling.

Packer has climbed up to fifth in the all-time England Women try scoring charts, and overtook Lydia Thompson and Kat Merchant in one match. The Saracen now sits just one try behind fourth-placed Nolli Waterman, and is delighted to be amongst such company as the 2014 Women’s Rugby World Cup winning fullback.

Marlie Packer of England Women acknowledges the rugby fans after the autumn international match between England Women and New Zealand Women at Sandy Park on 31 Oct 2021. Photo: Phil Mingo/PPAUK

MARLIE PACKER: “Yes, it was twice (scored against France). Look, for me, it’s sticking to the process. Most of the time when I get on the scoreboard, it’s because of my forwards and our driving maul. We work really hard in that area and I reap the reward, but it is from a massive set piece forward dominance. I couldn’t do it without them.

“Like Mitch says, we do it for the girls. To hear that I’m up there with the past of Nollie Waterman, and then actually, there be other players in the future too. I’m not chasing it (the record), because I never knew there was quite a record for it. But look, it’s a whole squad effort for me to get on the score line. So, it’s really nice to hear.”


4. “The girls need Ice” – Red Roses feeling effects of the French physicality

Maddie Feaunati of England Red Roses is tackled by Marine Menager of France Women and Emeline Gros of France Women during the Match between England Red Roses and France Women at Kingsholm Stadium on 7 September 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

The first match of a new season always tests the bodies physicality after a lengthy pre-season, with the Red Roses players certainly feeling the effects of the first day back out on the Test match pitch. Couple this with the opponents, as there are few women’s teams that carry and hit harder than France, and England were in for a gruelling afternoon in Gloucester.

Thankfully for England, there were no major injuries to add to the already sizeable list of key absentees. With Meg Jones, Sadia Kabeya, Rosie Galligan, Cath O’Donnell and Abby Ward all out injured, there was worry that more top names could go amiss for the New Zealand fixture, and the subsequent WXV campaign at the end of September. Ellie Kildunne was feeling the affects of a tough and physical encounter come the final whistle as she limped off the pitch, but thankfully the Harlequin has been given the green light to go ahead into this week.

Lark Atkin-Davies of England Red Roses is tackled by Romaine Menager of France Women and Charlotte Escudero of France Women during the Match between England Red Roses and France Women at Kingsholm Stadium on 7 September 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

JOHN MITCHELL: “I think she’s (Ellie Kildunne) fine. There’s a few girls that are going to need ice, having had really, the first real contact. We’ve done a lot of contact conditioning, but we haven’t done a lot of rugby contact, if you like, it being a lot of hard shoulders. So it’s good to get the real thing.”

“There’s a particular way to play New Zealand, so we’ll get excited about that. But when we’re ready, the girls will need a few ice packs, I think and a couple of little quiet beers and a bit of pizza, and just relax a little bit and get back into it again, because it’s really important.

Hannah Botterman of England Red Roses is tackled by Alexandra Chambon of France Women and Madoussou Fall of France Women during the Match between England Red Roses and France Women at Kingsholm Stadium on 7 September 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

“The girls will feel sore tomorrow morning. And emotion, it would probably have taken a lot out of us emotionally today as well. It’s good that we put in a really physical contest today.”


5. “Difficult person to sit down” – Ellie Kildunne back with England after Olympics

Ellie Kildunne of England Red Roses on the break during the Match between England Red Roses and France Women at Kingsholm Stadium on 7 September 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

The Red Roses fans welcomed Ellie Kildunne back to the 15s game, after the high-flying fullback took a Summer’s sabbatical with the Great Britain Olympic Sevens squad. Kildunne was joined by her England teammate Meg Jones in Team GB, with the side finishing seventh in the overall rankings at the Paris Games. Kildunne returned to the England camp in August, with her pre-season training taking a different variation to that of her campmates.

With player welfare at the forefront of rugby’s discussions, Kildunne took some enforced time away from the pitch yet Mitchell faced a conundrum with injuries to alternative fullback option Meg Jones, and with Helena Rowland forced into the midfield in the Leicester Tigers’ absence. Speaking on managing Kildunne’s on-field minutes, Mitchell expressed how she will hopefully have more time to rest in the coming weeks and months.

Ellie Kildunne of England Red Roses during the Match between England Red Roses and France Women at Kingsholm Stadium on 7 September 2024 in Gloucester, England. (Photo by Tom Sandberg/PPAUK)

JOHN MITCHELL: She didn’t do as much as the other girls in terms of leading into our preseason, (she did) different types of training. She’s unfortunately a difficult person to sit down! She’s got to be busy doing something. In this immediate period, like the (WXV) tournament, maybe there’s an opportunity at some stage to give somebody else a go, because obviously, we’re going to need two fifteens as well.

“Next year, we’ll get even more depth in that area with getting Meg (Jones) back, she can play 15 as well. Helena (Rowland) can play 15 as well. Then we’ve got Emma Singh, who’s a different type of player as a 15, she’s more of a kicking, single line attack player. Whereas the players I mentioned probably play two layers of attack really well, just through the acceleration and their ability to beat people one on one.”